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PostSubject: Goku Vs Hulk   Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:13 pm



Situaion: hulk is beyond pissed/blood lusted.

Incredible Gamma-rays vs super Gorilla and Ki.

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:07 pm

The second goku goes in for a hit he'd get one shotted and he can't kill hulk, just send him flying. It's iffy if he could even hurt a full strength hulk. If he plays it smart (goku, won't happen) and keeps his distance, he has a 65-45 chance. If he acts like goku 10-90

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:10 am

...No one else is gonna help me huh? *sigh* Alright here comes the DBZ fangirl... (Please note this is an unbiased opinion.)


Alright, so is Goku smart? No. Is he durable? Most definitely. He is able to use his Ki as a protective field against other attacks (hence how DBZ characters defend from planet-destroying techniques with a few scratches on them)

Goku's Ki is created from his spiritual energy, making it incredibly strong and it could probably tank one or two hits from Hulk. Not to mention he has Instant Transmission which is...well...Instant

The constant and instant transportation would drive an anger-ridden Hulk nuts, and he wouldn't be able to do much of anything against Goku. But that's assuming Goku is smart enough to do this. Most people would say he isn't (though this is more of a combat thing than a book-smart thing and Goku is a combat genius, I will however let that one slide) so we'll move along.

We're giving Goku all of his forms. In his Super Saiyan form, he ups his power by 10x. Super Saiyan 2 would buff that by double. Super Saiyan 3 quadruples that power and, assuming we are counting it despite it being confirmed as non-canon now, Super Saiyan 4 increases even that level of power.

However, there is still Goku's strongest and newest form, the Super Saiyan God. It has been confirmed he can now reach this stage on his own, but can't hold it forever. After exiting Super Saiyan God form, he is as a higher level of power than when he entered it, meaning that with each stage of Super Saiyan, his speed, strength, durability, and reaction time all increasing by those intervals, I would certainly go as far to say that he can best The Hulk in hand to hand combat. Without a doubt. And with opponents like Oozaru Vegeta, Big Gete Star Cooler and Janemba under his belt, he is no stranger to GIGANTIC opponents that dwarf him in size. Even if it's normal sized Hulk, Super Janemba, Super Buuhan, Cooler, King Cold (though he never actually fought him, if Trunks hadn't stepped in history stated Goku would dispatch him in seconds) and Super Android 13, he is no stranger to enemies that are stronger and larger than him.

Finally, we do come down to Goku's Ki attacks. This is his absolute largest edge over The Hulk. Goku has his solar flare which he uses strategically (goku and strategically without the words 'is not' between them. wow) to blind enemies he cannot outfight. Including The Hulk. He can create a Spirit Bomb and although it cannot hurt The Hulk, he could then absorb the power created by it, manipulating the energy as his own Ki instead. His Kienzan (TOTALLY STOLEN FROM KRILLIN) can literally cut through anything. Literally anything. This is canon. The Hulk would not think to dodge a blast like this if he's tanked several others and would find himself in the same position as Frieza before him. Cut to bits.

That's only scratching the surface of Goku's many abilities, so I honestly do think that Goku wins this duel. Not easily, but a win nonetheless.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:40 am

Just to specify on Hulk. Hulk also has many forms, one that is a scientist and one that he has melded to Banner, who is also a scientist but in a way himself. So fusion.


For this argument I will focus on Mindless hulk and Warbound/World War Hulk .

Mindless is not savage. Savage hulk is normal Hulk who gets punched often by Captain America and sliced by Wolverine.

Mindless Hulk has killed Thor in a non-canon movie. He has lifted Thor's hammer, and thrown off the strongest heroes all working together to hold him down in marvel Universe.

Also, he has potential to be stronger than Superman. Superman receives energy from the sun for over 30 years, yes. However a single Gamma-ray is 100X more powerful than a single ray from the sun. So in that Gamma-bomb Banner was exposed to way more concentrated energy than Superman will ever hope to receive from the sun.

Anyway, World War Hulk has taken attacks that have leveled city blocks in a single breath - black bolt. Took then power of 1 million burning suns, which Goku can ever hope to produce. And was stabbed through the stomach, shot in the eye, and shredded by a bunch of adamantium and healed faster than any of it could hurt him.

In essence given Goku has speed we have to assume that he can't hurt hulk faster than Hulk can heal. We also can't assume he can ever produce in any form a Ki attack even the spirit bomb that will end Hulk. Lastly, he is definitely not gonna be stronger than Hulk, size doesn't matter. Hulk is the strongest character created...most likely. And Warbound Hulk, is skilled in combat too, and is actually smart.

So while I don't think he's as fast or agile than Goku, he is a tank and no of Goku's form have full advantages over any of his own. Especially the last two.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:48 am

This is a spite thread xD
Hulk has two or three leagues between himself and Goku.
BlackBolt (which would be a close fight)
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:37 am

Cell and Majin Buu were much worse than Hulk imo and probably were inspired from him and a few other characters. Goku should not have too much trouble here. On top of that, even though he's not that smart, he has been shown being able to figure out certain things so maybe he'll figure out the temper-based mechanics of Hulk's powers.

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:32 am

So here's my question. Why do you guys keep setting Goku against an enemy he literally can't beat by any sense of logic? Just to watch me flounder around? It's kind of annoying if its that definitive. "Goku vs Mephisto in his realm begin"

It's not a fair fight if its THAT difinitive. This is literally a spite thread out of nowhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:36 am

I'm not personally saying he can't defeat Hulk? There's diff types of Hulk. Savage Hulk gets pwned by street fighters. His ability is determined by form and rage and I knew nothing of Sayain God, so I'm only speculating he can't win. I don't know enough about Goku's highest feats to say he can't.

However that's the point of a debate.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:06 pm

>information redacted due to miscommunication< If Marvel crossed with DC and he fought Doomsday, that's the only case in which I think Hulk would lose (Though I would also argue Superman [So sue me]). And that's because Doomsday never dies (Bjorn can tell you a lot about that).

Based on my knowledge, Hulk wins this. Even if this is a "spite thread" (Whatever the hell that is).

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:59 pm

I never said that c.c

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:01 pm

Whoops. Edited. xD

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:19 am

I would have to say hulk, especially World War/World Breaker Hulk.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:23 pm

This thread is awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm

Yeah they are an interesting match up as both have underwent constant power ups so it's a close match.
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PostSubject: Re: Goku Vs Hulk   Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:14 pm

When the newbies are going through the old threads for...whatever reason. xD

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